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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping...
and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
(Opening the session)
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon.
- I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung. - We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
It's nice to see you all.
We will cover each representative's issues and share diverse opinions.
We discuss all global issues by saying yes or no.
Agree or Disagree, What is So Important?
Shall we hear the issue that our USA representative Mark has brought forth?
I have finally brought forth something about Trump.
(It's about Trump.)
This is going to be fun.
- Yes. - Trump.
The presidential candidate Trump,
told someone to take the baby out of here...
at a campaign rally.
He said in English, "Get that baby out of here."
(He said that as the baby cried.)
(Crying)
(Uncomfortable)
It's caused quite a stir.
Trump has been criticized for his actions this time.
The idea of a No Kids Zone...
in public locations...
has become a controversial debate topic.
I would like to ask your opinions
on the No Kids Zone issue.
So, I have brought forth this agenda to discuss.
I saw the video.
I felt like something he would have done.
- It was very Trump-like. - Yes.
It felt like he was kidding.
He was making a joke.
If a reporter asks a question he doesn't want to ask,
he tells the reporter to leave.
He's said that to so many people.
"Get out of here. Get out of here."
But he's saying that to a baby, and I think that's too much.
A baby is crying loudly at a place where someone is giving a speech,
don't you think the parent is also strange for just sitting still as well?
- True. - It'll effect the people around them.
It's actually hard to leave from a place like that.
- Right, if it's crowded. - There's tens of thousands of people.
You can't get out.
If you don't want to tell the baby to get out,
than what do the people want?
Do the people want the parent to calm the baby in the seat?
"Don't cry, don't cry." Like that?
- Okay, so we'll take a vote now. - Okay.
To decrease the number of people being affected by babies,
there has been a rise in the number of places...
where preschoolers aren't allowed. No Kids Zone.
The question is whether we need to implement this or not.
There has been a lot of debate about this.
Please press the button if you are against the No Kids Zone policy.
Three, two, one.
The Italian representative pressed it the fastest.
They've pressed the button.
Aurelien, Oogi and Nik...
are against the No Kids Zone policy.
First of all, when we were kids, we also ran around and made a lot of noise.
- We played as much as we could. - I don't remember, but go on.
I feel like, babies need this freedom.
The babies...
don't really know what they are allowed to do.
So instead of a No Kids Zone,
I think the parents need to be more responsible.
Hold on. I'm sure there are...
- places where you need to be quiet. - There are.
- That's... - Like movie theaters.
Let's say we went to a movie theater and there was a child.
- Are you saying we have to be understanding when the baby starts crying? - No,
I'm saying instead of creating a law, it should be the parents...
- who should be responsible. - How do you educate a child not to cry?
- How do you educate a baby not to cry? - That's...
If the baby cries,
the mother can take the baby outside.
- Right. - The parents can make the decision.
- The child... - The parents are adults.
- The parents can decide. - Also...
- A baby shouldn't be allowed inside a movie theater in the first place. - Wait.
Everyone here was once a child.
Just because we are adults now,
is it a good thing to restrict access...
- to children? - Kids don't mind.
It's what the parents want.
Babies don't really mind if they are alone.
We do need to allow children to play freely...
but this also depends on the place.
There are place that they can play.
In the case of Trump's speech.
The baby didn't need to be there.
- There's nothing for the baby to do there. - Exactly.
We...
are talking about public places.
The definition of a public place is...
a location for everyone.
It's not just a place for adults because it's a public place.
I don't think it's a problem,
as long as you consider the other people.
Alberto, you keep talking about public places.
Let's say,
there was a rock concert. But it's happening in the square.
Will you take your baby?
You can't hear the baby so I think a rock concert is okay.
- Christian, you wouldn't take a baby to a rock concert. - Also...
If you wanted to go, then you should have the right to go.
Because it's happening at a public place.
- The problem is... - This is common sense.
people are paying money to go to this concert.
If a situation like this happens,
that person's rights are not being respected.
In certain places, we do need to work.
If it becomes a problem, then measures must be taken.
It's a place where lots of people are going to be giving a speech.
A political party and a lot of people...
are going to be there.
If it becomes a problem, then measures must be taken.
I actually wanted to disagree...
because the issue was about Trump.
But after seeing the topic,
- this is about... - I want to disagree everytime I hear Trump's name.
- Me too. - But...
if we only think about the agenda,
and look at it from the baby's point of view,
why is the baby crying?
It's not good for the baby to be in a crowded place.
From the parent's point of view,
they shouldn't have taken the baby to a place like that.
- Because... - So?
- the baby is uncomfortable and that's why the baby is crying. - So?
So, a No Kids Zone...
shouldn't be applied everywhere.
It should only applied to where there are lots of people.
Or places where babies find it uncomfortable.
They should prepare beforehand...
and make it into a No Kids Zone.
Not taking babies to places like that is better for the baby.
That was only slightly different from Nik's argument.
Which was parenting.
There's a difference between, "Let's not take our child to a place like that."
And not being able to enter.
We need to do this through better parenting,
but everyone has their own selfish wants.
I want to hear that speech or I want to be a part of that.
This is hard to decide.
It's hard to decide in the US.
In the US,
restaurants or theaters...
are not regarded as public places.
It's seen as a private business.
So, everything depends on the owner of the private business.
If the owner wants to stop kids from entering his business,
the owner has that right.
The No Kids Zone has become a trend in other countries.
Many restaurants have now put up signs saying,
"No Kids Zone".
There was a lot of push back on this.
This was a story that was in the paper.
Most people said,
"Really? Okay I'm not going there, then."
Even people without kids said...
- they wouldn't go. - "I'm not going."
- It was a serious issue. - Italians...
really like children.
(Under Italian law, no-one can be denied access to an eatery without good reason.)
The kids are just used as an excuse.
The problem is with the adults.
There are adults who are like this,
- they are very loud in a very quiet place. - In India...
If you look at it, it's the same thing.
The problem is with adults who do not have any sense.
To be honest I think the No Kids Zone...
is just absurd.
It's also very inhumane.
Think about it, this has become a trend.
Restaurants have become a No Kids Zone.
Where are parents with children meant to go?
Does that mean, parents with children...
have to go to the same noisy restaurant. That's absurd.
- Instead of a No Kids Zone... - In India...
- we should have a No Bad Parents Zone. - That's nice.
- We should do that. - What would be the standard?
I think Guillaume is right.
- No Bad Parents Zone is a good idea. - He's right.
It's because if the parents behave badly,
the children will also behave badly when they grow up.
- This is a parenting issue. - I think...
that parents need to be charged with misdemeanors.
- To protect the child. - It's like saying this is how I'm going to raise my child.
If this continues,
the adult should be the one to be punished.
The places that want to implement a No Kids Zone...
are actually places that adults want to go to.
It's not places that children want to go to.
It's like famous restaurants that adults want to go to.
But aren't parents outside of Korea...
scarier?
- True. - My parents were very scary.
It's the child's bed time, right?
The child gets scolded.
- If they don't sleep? - They don't hug them and help them to sleep.
Go back to bed.
Go to sleep. Because that's the parents time.
- Isn't that just the exception? - No, they are all like that.
- Right? - A lot of parents are like that.
They also say, "Don't go there, it's dangerous."
- "I told you." - After they go there and get hurt,
- "I told you didn't I?" - I can just imagine that.
Let's say the mother made lunch in the morning,
and the child lost it on the bus.
A Korean mother would be like, "Oh, dear. What will you have for lunch?"
"I'll send you some money."
But in our country,
the parent would say, "I guess you won't be eating lunch."
- See, I told you. - The parents are very cold.
- "I guess you won't be eating." - The child has to learn responsibility.
- "There's nothing I can do." - The parents are trying to teach responsibility.
"They won't lose it the next time."
I think that's good parenting.
What about it Germany?
It's the same in Germany.
German parents believe that children need to learn responsibility from a young age.
When I first went to elementary school,
I was very young, right?
I didn't know the way.
So, my mother walked me to school for the first week.
Just five days.
After that I had to go to school by myself.
If I lost my way,
- "Why are you calling me?" - "We won't be able to see each other anymore."
No, that wasn't it.
It wasn't...
"Take care of yourself."
It wasn't like that.
"Why are you calling me?"
"Ask the people around you."
Parents try to their children to learn from their mistakes.
They believe this is important.
In Switzerland,
parents also believe like German parents that teaching responsibility is important.
For example,
it's a common sight to see...
three year old children learning how to use a saw.
What happens if the children hurt themselves?
- Don't they get worried. - There's always an adult who supervises the children.
I see, there's always adult supervision.
Children who are 4 or 5 years old...
- walk to school by themselves. - Right.
So,
we learn responsibility from a very young age.
If children are taught this at a young age,
I feel like No Kids Zone would not be necessary.
In France, when children are noisy in public places...
They get embarrassed by it.
Also, when it comes to dining etiquette,
kids are expected to maintain good table manners just like adults.
Parents have the same course meals with their kids...
and teach them to eat slowly.
When the kids want to leave the table early,
they have to ask their parents if it's okay.
They have to ask, "I finished my meal. Can I leave first?"
That's what they do.
I want to ask Se-yoon.
When you have meals with your children,
how do you teach your kids?
- Do you teach them about the table manners? - I do.
Do you tell them to sit down?
I tell them to sit down at mealtimes...
until they're finished eating.
Do they listen to you?
Not really, but I keep telling them.
- And you leave the table first, right? - Yes.
(He makes a confession.)
(Wow!)
It's so delicious!
I'm the one who should behave.
Recently, a famous Paskistani comedian called Faisal Qureshi...
launched a children restaurant.
Really?
Kids can go there with their parents,
but when they order the food, kids have to do it themselves.
Parents might ask them, "Please order that dish for me."
(No!)
- "Please order that dish for me." - "That's not good for you."
"You'll gain weight."
There are times when the kids don't finish their meals.
They eat a little bit and leave the table to play.
So when they finish their meals, they get prizes for that.
- They give prizes for kids when they finish their meals. - That's a good idea.
Recently, such restaurant has opened.
I think controversies regarding No Kids Zone will continue.
What's most important is not whether we should legislate regarding this.
- It's about being considerate of others. - Of course.
I think that's what's important.
We've heard various opinions from the representatives.
We will come back with another "What Is So Important" next week.
We have a representative from Netherlands. Please introduce yourself.
(Nice to meet you.)
(My name is Nadia, and I'm from Netherlands.)
(I've been in Korea for five years.)
(At the moment, I'm preparing to open a cosmetics business.)
I'm from Netherlands, the country of tulips.
I'm Nadia, and I'm a business woman. Nice to meet you all.
- All right. - When I went to Amsterdam, I was surprised...
because I could hardly see windmills and tulips.
I couldn't see them.
- I couldn't see any windmills. - There are many if you go to Paju.
There are many of them in Yongin, too.
- You can see tulips if you go to Everland. - There are a lot in the southern part.
- Really? - Yes.
- You can see them if you go to other regions. - A friend of mine...
went to a marijuana cafe in Netherlands.
He smoked a cigarette instead of marijuana.
Someone came up to him and said he's in non-smoking area.
He must have been surprised.
Since smoking marijuana is illegal in Korea, he just went there to have a look.
So he smoked a cigarette and was told that he was in non-smoking area.
- Well... - I believe the cafe was filled with smoke.
Nowadays, smoking is banned in most public areas in Netherlands.
(Smoking is banned in most public areas in Netherlands.)
- We have a good news. - Yes.
We have a really good news here in Non Summit Meeting.
The first child of Non Summit Meeting was born.
Finally, Alberto's baby Almaengi has come into the world.
Congratulations.
(Congratulations)
There's the picture.
- Did you cry? - He's so cute.
I cried a lot.
When I heard him cry for the first time, I cried, too.
I couldn't help but cry.
You know his body weight, right?
He was born pretty big.
He weighed 4.4kg when he was born.
- He's healthy. - He weighed 4.4kg?
- Also, he was about 1m tall. - What?
He was 1m tall?
- That can't be. - He was 56cm tall.
- I see. - That's not 1m.
That's... I mean...
he was 56cm tall.
- If he was 1m tall... - That means he grew up already.
(They could send him to the kindergarten.)
- Did he graduate elementary school already? - He was 56cm tall.
- Actually, he looks a lot like me. - Which features does he take after you?
I don't know. People tell me he resembles me.
Actually, I saw another close-up picture of the baby.
- The baby looks a lot like Alberto. - Really?
It's fascinating.
Is his name going to be Almaengi?
- It's Leonardo. - Leonardo.
- Leonardo Mondi? - Yes, his Korean name is Leo.
- Leo? - It's a great name.
What Chinese characters will you use for the name?
I haven't decided yet,
- Chinese characters? - so I asked Wang Simlin to choose one for me.
- I see. - I will make a great name.
Hyun-moo and Guillaume should hurry up a bit. Good luck.
What does he want me to do?
- He's the one who got married. - That's right.
I will hurry up and join the parent club.
- Good luck. - Good luck.
All right.
Who is the Korean representative today?
All the dramas she starred in became big hits!
All the dramas?
- All the dramas? - My pronunciation was really bad.
She's also known for her famous catch phrase.
Some of you may not know this.
- "The soup is..." - The soup?
- "amazing." - That was funny.
She's an amazing actress, Kim Hyun-joo.
(The 113th Korean representative, Kim Hyun-joo)
- Hello. - Hello.
(Kim Hyun-joo, Korean, an actress)
"The soup is amazing."
- Have a seat. - Hello.
Some of you may not know who she is.
- Right. - Raise your hand if you don't know her.
(Six of them know her and five of them don't know.)
They all speak good Korean.
Actually, a lot of you know her.
(Of course!)
(Simlin enthusiastically reacts towards her.)
- Why would you react so frivolously? - I've never heard his voice like that.
She's the most popular actress in China. I'm serious.
- Really? - "What Happens to My Family?"
- Is that the title? - Do you want to change seats with me?
- Do you want to change seats? - I'm okay.
She looks beautiful from every angle.
(Hyun-joo looks beautiful from every angle.)
- Thank you. - Is that drama popular in China at the moment?
- Yes, it is very popular. - I see.
It's popular enough to change your voice.
I watched the drama twice under my blankets...
without my parent's knowledge.
- What does that mean? - Under your blanket?
- Why did you cover yourself with blankets? - I had to study back then.
I didn't want to wake them up.
- I get it. - I watched it alone under my blankets.
Really? Thank you.
- Simlin must be a huge fan of hers. - Yes.
Didn't people call Hyun-joo the Julia Roberts of Korea?
- When I debuted. - Julia Roberts?
That's right.
When I debuted, people told me...
- that I look like her when I smile. - How did you know that?
- Seriously, how did you know? - That's...
He held my hand during the break and panicked.
(Panting)
He couldn't calm down.
He was like that when Yoon Jong-shin came on the show.
He knows every Korean celebrity. It's amazing.
Please introduce yourself.
Yes, you will be able to see me on JTBC pretty soon.
I'm Kim Hyun-joo an actress. Nice to meet you.
(Nice to meet you.)
- You said you'll star in a drama of JTBC. - Yes.
I heard you'll play a woman who lives today. What does that mean?
- I play a character with terminal illness who has six months to live. - I see.
She has only six months to live.
So she's the character...
that makes the best of her day.
(They're somewhat solemn.)
It's not a sad story. It's a funny romance comedy drama.
- We never said it's a sad drama. - Right.
- So it's a vibrant comedy drama. - That's right.
I watched the preview, and it looked hilarious.
- You watched the preview? - Yes.
It looked like a fun drama. I'm looking forward to it.
All right. We'll be looking forward to it.
We will now begin the 113th Non Summit Meeting.
Hyun-joo, please tell us today's agenda.
Perhaps it's because I've been living in the city for a long time,
or maybe it's because I've been living in the same place for a long time.
Recently, I've been thinking that...
I want to get out of the city and live somewhere else.
That's why I brought this agenda today.
"I want to leave the city."
"Am I abnormal?"
- You want to leave the city. - You're getting old.
That's right. I'm at that age where I'm starting to miss the natural environment.
- It's the same for me. I used to hate green color when I was young. - Yes.
- I used to hate going to the countryside. - Right.
- But nowadays, it feels great to leave the city. - You miss the country life.
While you change channels, do you stop at
"Living in Nature"?
Do you enjoy watching "Hometown Report"?
I think I'm transitioning to such phase.
Yes, that happens.
I tend to use fans more than I use air conditioner.
I hardly use the boiler in winters, too.
So the city gas bill I pay is very little.
I heard you don't even turn on the light at home.
That's right.
I heard she bumps into things because she can't see clearly.
Do you have luminous arrows on the floor then?
(Fumbling)
Do you have an infrared camera at home?
As if she's acting in a play.
I like places that are dark.
- So... - You like cold and dark places.
I don't think you should live in the city.
- Really? - You should live in the countryside.
I wake up early in the morning these days...
since I have to film a drama.
But I don't want to lose...
that dark and cold energy of the dawn.
When people wake up, they turn on the light first, right?
But I don't turn on the light.
I just go straight to the shower.
I think she should join "Living in Nature".
You can meet people who live in the mountain.
- Yoon Taek will visit your place very soon. - You know his hairstyle.
- So you like that kind of things. - Yes.
- All right. - All right.
Today's agenda is "I want to leave the city. Am I abnormal?"
We'll now begin the discussion.
If you think it's abnormal, please press the button.
One, two, three. Press the button.
Is Hyun-joo who wants to leave the city abnormal?
Simlin, you're a huge fan of hers. Why do you think it's abnormal?
In China, a lot of young people in the city get tired of the city life...
and leave for the country.
A news report said that half of them regret their decision and return to the city.
Because there are not enough opportunities...
to open up a business or to get a job in rural areas.
People say there aren't enough opportunities in the countryside. It's just not true.
You just get paid less in the countryside.
In a way, you're expecting too much.
You can work in the countryside,
but you have to compromise the salary you earn.
You have to make a living somehow,
but there aren't many opportunities in the countryside.
- But... - You can still find jobs there.
People who live in the countryside usually live off the land.
If they all moved to the city, who will do the farming?
I don't think there's enough awareness around this.
I'm concerned about farming.
When you actually move to the countryside,
for example, in China,
there are only outdoor bathrooms.
During winter, it becomes really painful to go to the bathroom.
- Really? - Yes, it's mostly like that in China.
So I was wondering...
about Mark's current experience with hanok.
- I love the design of hanoks, - But it must be inconvenient?
isn't it inconvenient to live in?
I've remodeled the house in modern style.
- His house is modern inside. - Then that means...
he won't sacrifice his urban ways even if he lives in the country.
Does it not?
But I don't think it's logical to live in the city...
just because of bathrooms.
- That is unnecessary. - You can remodel.
During the winter, if you want to go to the bathroom,
you must put it off as long as you can.
That's too much.
But these days, living in country doesn't necessarily...
- include those experiences. - Of course not.
Is that so?
It's more developed than you'd think. With strong Wi-Fi.
- Yes. - When I said I wanted to escape the city...
I didn't mean that I wanted to farm.
I became confused whether...
I should consider farming as an option.
I understand why you'd want to escape the city,
but that sentiment cannot last for long because...
all the jobs are in the city.
So you should consider bringing nature into the city,
in New York that would be visiting the Central Park.
- Even small things like growing plants in your house will help. - Like gardening.
It has worked for me so far.
I think you have figured out...
a few ways to incorporate nature already, in your apartment.
Leaving the light switch off sounds like one thing.
- It feels like you're out in the nature. - I don't agree.
- But that's not nature. - I've lived in Gangnam for about five years,
and since I couldn't live far off from Seoul,
I decided to live in the hanok village.
He's throwing in some bragging in there.
- He's trying to appeal to her. - It's literally a village inside Seoul.
I've found my own space of nature...
- within Seoul. - Why are you on a blind date all the sudden?
(Why are you on a date?)
I've taught him well.
- I've taught him well. - He's improved so much.
- He thought we wouldn't know. - That was smooth.
He was making it part of his discussion.
Masterful.
Impressive.
(Mark starts off great today.)
Today, we'll discuss urban life and environment.
- Mainly about living spaces and lifestyles. - Right.
People started to value proximity to forests as opposed to subway stations,
which reflects the inclinations towards relaxation and being in the nature.
It's become a trend. That's why I live close to the Seoul Forest...
- for real estate reasons. - Proximity to forests?
But I've never been. I don't even know where Seoul Forest is.
What are the important criteria in choosing houses in your countries?
In India, sure there could be many criteria,
but since we have a lot of superstitions,
- the direction at which the house is facing is most important. - Really?
- Like feng shui. - The direction of the windows.
We have a phrase for it in Indian, and it's "Vastu Shastra."
It's a set of rules for choosing which direction houses should face.
If your house faces the southwest,
- it is said that evils can come in. - Evil spirits.
Right. The most desirable direction to face...
- is northwest. - In China, we must face south.
- The more sunlight, the better. - In Korea, too.
Second to the direction of the house is...
the proximity to markets. Indians are constantly cooking.
Since the weather is hot, too,
being close to the markets is a very desirable trait.
But aren't there a lot of markets in India?
Markets? You could even call the whole country a market.
- Everywhere you look, there's a market. - That's why I think...
that is not a decisive factor.
It's everywhere.
As you've probably seen, in India, you see vendors everywhere you go.
People sell fruits on a moving cart,
walking around the apartment complexes.
"Potato, Potato, Tomato," they will be chanting.
- I don't think they'll speak that way. - Not with that dialect.
- "Tomato, tomato." - "Tomato, tomato."
I see those fruit trucks in my neighborhood in Korea, too.
They shout "Fruits, fruits, apple."
- They're still around. - "Watermelon, watermelon."
"We have a lot of big fresh-laid eggs."
In Mexico,
people consider security system...
as one of the important factors, to ensure safety.
I heard that it's important to have at least one guard for each building.
- That's right. - In Switzerland, we don't have security guards in houses.
- None in Italy, too. - Really?
There is no security guard. So when I first came to Korea,
I was really surprised to see that each apartment building...
- had its own security guard. - I thought so, too.
In Korea, the bigger the house,
the higher the price.
But in Switzerland the location of the house is much more important.
If it's not too far from the city,
and has a great view then it must be quite expensive.
- In Switzerland. - Yes.
It's completely different in Italy.
Italians love a house with basement.
It's called a taverna.
We decorate our basements very nicely and...
invite guests to dinner.
It also works as a storage to hang salami or ham.
- I see. - Also as a wine cellar.
- For wines. - It's really nice to store wines in basements.
It's also an entertainment room for the guests.
In Japan, the notion becomes very different because...
safety is of highest importance, since there are earthquakes.
Building an earthquake-resistant house is really important.
In 1981, a bill regarding this was passed...
to protect houses from earthquakes.
But during the Kumamoto earthquake, houses that were built according to this law...
- didn't make it through. - Even with the earthquake-resistant design.
Yes. Because it was a series of two huge earthquakes.
That kind of scale wasn't expected.
That's why politicians are looking into revising the law.
So it'll hold up in times like the Kumamoto earthquake.
- What's it like in Netherlands? - I'm sure you're aware...
that almost 25 percent of land in Netherlands is...
below sea level.
That means almost half of the population...
is living below sea level.
Floating homes are increasingly becoming popular.
The reason being the fact that Netherlands doesn't have much land.
Floating homes are popular but...
it gets quite windy inside, which is a problem.
Kim Hyun-joo, what are your main concerns when looking for a house?
- It's important to have a place to take a walk nearby. - A park.
- Where did you say you live? - Near Namsan.
Do you really take a lot of walks?
- Yes, I do. - It's really important to her.
I used to live close to Bonghwa Mountain...
- Bonghwa Mountain. - When I first moved, I was planning to hike...
- every Sunday. - But you never went.
But I never did.
- That's normal. - It's what happened to me.
When I take a walk in Namsan,
I now have a course of my own.
At the end of the road there is an acupressure path...
- made of gravels and pebbles. - Acupressure road.
- Yes, exactly. - With bare feet.
The acupressure walkway.
- You hold your shoes like this. - Right.
At the end of the path there is a water pipe...
so you can wash your feet.
Once I got into doing that,
I had to take the full walk around Namsan...
to feel energized.
- Finishing up with acupressure at the end. - Right.
- That's why... - It's a beauty secret from an actress.
I'm not kidding when I say this, but I hear...
people telling me that I have a glow in my face the next day.
Seriously. So I...
don't feel good when I miss my routine.
I'm worried that people would notice.
That's how much I trust its effects.
- Those acupressure boards, - Maybe you've made a purchase...
have you bought them for your house?
(You got me.)
You have your own acupressure board?
Yes. Don't you?
- You have one. - Do you massage your back against trees, too?
I didn't take it that far.
(I didn't take it that far.)
- She hasn't reached that level. - You meant this,
- clapping back and forth. - She's not there yet.
It's not as easy as you think.
- You have to be quite skilled. - Hyun-moo, did Gong Yoo used to live in your house?
- It was my previous house. - You lived one story above T.O.P from Big Bang?
You lived one story above T.O.P from Big Bang.
- That house above T.O.P's house... - On top of T.O.P.
is the same house as the one Gong Yoo used to live in.
Are you on the lookout for houses that celebrities lived in?
It's my first priority.
Whether it had been occupied by a Hallyu star.
- Who lived there before. - Right.
For about a year, I slept on the couch...
that Gong Yoo left behind.
To receive his energy.
- That couch was a built-in? - No, he left it when he moved.
The couch?
- Was he sharing? - It came in really handy.
- He shared his couch. - He did.
What surprised you the most...
- about the living culture of Korea? - You mentioned the security guards.
I was shocked by the huge apartment complexes.
As I left the airport...
and came into Seoul, all I could see were apartments.
- Right. - In France,
there are big apartment complexes, for sure,
but they are usually in the poorer neighborhoods.
- Same in Netherlands. - But when I came to Korea,
- In Italy, too. - It was shocking to learn that...
even the rich people were living in apartments.
Even rich people are desperate to live in apartments.
It doesn't just look the same from outside.
The layout of the place is exactly the same all throughout the building.
That's right.
- It was interesting. - It's identical.
So whenever I visit someone else's apartment,
I wonder if I've been there before.
In Italy, people consider...
apartments not necessarily as negative,
- but like bee houses. - Bee house.
Every house is identical.
It doesn't really feel like it belongs to you.
I was really surprised when I came to Korea, too.
In New York, every building has its distinct personalities.
There is no notion of a 'complex.'
In Korea, there are all these identical buildings all numbered...
- as a complex. - There's no such thing?
To my American eye, it almost looks like a city in itself.
- It... - The complex looks like a city to you.
It's so big that it could suffice as a city.
And on the walls of those buildings,
they've painted flowers and birds.
- Flowers or birds. - Grapes, sometimes.
And a big logo of the apartment brand.
You know, like that blue round logo.
- Sam something. - Right.
- You usually see those on TVs in the US. - Right.
I don't understand why they'd put...
- those logos on buildings. - It should be on TVs.
- In China, the brand of the apartment is of utmost importance. - It's similar.
In conversations,
when you mention which brand of apartment you're living in,
it's easy for people to know how rich you are.
The brand name of the apartment shows...
your social status. Where you live is important.
There is a building called "Trump Tower" in US.
Since Donald Trump is less than popular these days,
those buildings are decreasing in value...
and the number of people who live there has decreased.
Because of Trump?
People don't go there because they don't like him.
What I find fascinating is that...
there are many different types of housing in Korea.
If you're a student, you can live in a dormitory or...
small studio. There are housings called "one room" or "officetel".
Actually, I don't know what the differences are.
- There are differences. - I heard you lived in one room, Niklas.
I've only lived in one room in Korea.
It was a fascinating experience for me.
Christian, have you lived in goshiwon as well?
Yes, I lived in goshiwon for a long time.
I think he has more experience than Koreans.
I couldn't sleep because my room was too small.
Does goshiwon only exist in Korea? Aren't there small rooms like that in Japan?
- We don't have goshiwon in Japan. - Really?
Don't they have capsule rooms in Japan?
- There are capsule rooms in Japan, right? - But that's a hotel.
- It's a hotel. - So they don't have goshiwon.
- Don't you think goshiwon will be popular in Japan? - You're right.
Yes, Japanese people know how to endure.
(My goodness.)
It'd be hard to distinguish between a house and a goshiwon.
They could live in internet cafes though.
If you go to an internet cafe in Japan, you'll get your own room.
If you go to an internet cafe,
you can see people living in the tiny rooms.
- Is there... - You can take a shower there, too.
- Many people stay there. - Do they have shower facilities there?
- Yes. - Is it better to stay there?
- Do you pay monthly rent? - No.
- You pay the fee by the hour. - Really?
When French people or students go to Paris,
they stay at a place called chambre de bonne. It means maid's room.
If you visit old houses in France...
that middle-class families used to live in, you can find a maid's room...
on the top of the house.
They still have small rooms like that.
It's like a room on a rooftop.
I wonder how people in other countries get a room to stay.
I'm sure they use real estate agents.
In China, the way you get a room in the city is different from the countryside.
You can hardly find any real estate agents.
You make a contract with the landlord directly,
but there are problems rising from having too many real estate agents in the city.
There are many real estate agents who try to scam you.
For example, a media outlet reported...
a real estate agent who scammed so many of his clients. He was scared that...
he might get caught so he changed the signboard every month.
He'd name his business Seoul Real Estate Agency.
Next month, he'd change it to Busan Real Estate Agency.
He changed the name every month.
It surprised me when I was looking for a room in Korea.
In Japan, the landlords can only register their houses after the tenants leave.
Then we can look at the houses that are vacant.
But in Korea, you have a look at the place...
- Even I was surprised. - when people are still living in the house.
- In Japan, it's rude to do that. - Yes.
It's embarrassing.
They could be hanging the laundry up.
- "Mom, who is that man?" - That used to happen.
Once I visited a house with my real estate agent to have a look.
He was banging at the door.
He shouted, "Is anybody home?"
In Japan, that's how Yakuza gets their money.
That's how they do it.
- I was really shocked back then. Nowadays... - You still look shocked.
- Yes. - He does look shocked.
Guys do that a lot, and even the ladies do the same.
They'd bang at the door.
- Are they all Yakuza then? - I see.
I'm still not used to it.
Hyun-joo, do you look for houses yourself?
I have looked for it once.
- You must've been surprised. - Yes.
- "I enjoy watching your drama." - "I'm here to have a look at the place."
I was flustered,
and the person who was living in the house also got flustered.
Also, when you want to move out,
- people would visit your place to have a look. - Yes.
That's even more embarrassing for me.
Like you said, I can't take out all my belongings...
and pretend the place is empty.
Once I removed all my pictures.
That's right. I cleaned my house as well.
In France, when you move out after the contract ends,
you have to clean up the place before you leave.
- If it's too dirty, they won't give your deposit money back. - They won't.
- Because it's too dirty. - I see.
I had lived in England for three months before.
There was an inspector who checked on the condition of the house.
He checked the condition of the house meticulously.
When he found things that were damaged,
he deducted the cost from the deposit money.
There are different kinds of dwellings in Korea. You can buy or lease the house.
You can also rent it monthly and even semi-lease.
I heard the concept of monthly rent is very different from that of Korea.
In Germany, monthly rent system is well-established throughout the country,
so most people live in a monthly rented house.
When you make a contract for the rent,
it's hard for the landlord to raise the monthly rent.
They can't just raise the monthly rent as they please.
There has to be an adequate reason for the raise.
Also, they can't raise the rent more than 20 percent within 3 years.
In Korea, the landlords are the ones who get to choose the tenants.
Perhaps, people think it's the opposite in Germany.
- Am I right? - Yes.
You're very insightful.
It's the same in France. You can't raise the rent...
surpassing the inflation rate.
- You can't raise more than the inflation rate. - Right.
- It's the same in my country. - It's only about 10 euros.
It's actually harder to find a house in France.
Because to rent a house, you need to prepare the deposit money,
- a letter of guarantee, and a guarantor. - Really?
Yes, you need a guarantor. We don't have a long-term leasing system in France.
In China, all the land belongs to the State.
So I can't privately own a land. When we make a contract, for example,
It says I can live in the apartment for 70 years...
from the date of the effectiveness of the contract.
- For 70 years? - That's right.
After 70 years, it will be placed under the state-ownership.
- Really? - So I don't own the property.
So there are no properties to be inherited to their children.
So you don't buy a house in China.
- You live there for 70 years. - You buy the right to live in the premise.
It must be cheaper then.
- No. - Isn't it cheaper?
It's not cheap at all.
That's why many Chinese people come to Canada.
- That's true. - They even buy properties on the internet.
- On the internet? - That's right.
- They buy premises in Jeju Island, too. - They buy premises all over the world.
- I see. - Jeju Island.
I was fascinated about how people move in Korea.
Many people move to a new place every two years.
That's because the leasing contract ends after two years in Korea.
It's either they move out due to the raise of rent...
or move to a better place after saving up.
Either way, they move out.
But that never happens in Canada.
When they become 28 or 29 after they graduate,
they buy a house. They can get bank loans up to 95 percent of the price.
So they buy a house they'll live for the rest of their lives.
People usually move once when they're young, then they don't have to move.
People move into new big apartments,
and the moving service people in Korea are amazing.
- It's amazing. - They're really good.
They pack things up for you,
and they place your belongings in the same spots.
It's even better. They places things in the spots where they should be.
That's right.
They even decorate your house better.
The lady even tells you where to put all the plates.
They're really good.
There is always a lady who has the aesthetic sense.
They even organize your fridge perfectly.
- I was fascinated to see the ladder truck. - Right.
In America, there is an elevator that you can use for moving.
It's big enough to fit a sofa or furniture.
In Korea, what fascinated me was that...
they are able to move anything including a piano or a sofa.
It goes straight up to the 14th floor.
It goes up so high, and it was fascinating.
When I first came to Korea,
I saw people move very often.
So I thought, "Do Koreans like moving?"
That's what I thought.
- So... - Nobody likes moving.
Obviously, you misunderstood.
- I like moving. - That's what I thought,
but recently, I found out they have to move because of the leasing contract.
I found that out recently.
Let's continue our discussions after voting.
In Korea, monthly rented houses are becoming more popular than leasing...
as the interest rate is going down.
You have to pay a large amount of deposit money...
instead of paying monthly rent.
Raise your hand if you think long-term lease is a great system.
One, two, three.
Do you like the system?
Hyun-joo also thinks it's a great system.
- It's a good system. - Even Oogi likes it.
This is how I look at it.
Long-term lease is somewhat similar to leasing a car.
It's very similar.
If you lease your house,
you don't have to pay property tax.
Also, after two years,
if you have to go overseas or go somewhere else,
you don't have to worry about selling the property.
To people who don't have enough money to buy a house,
it's a great system.
You can even take out a bank loan for the lease.
You just have to have a financial plan for that.
If the deposit money is 30 percent cheaper than the price of the house,
you should go ahead and lease the house.
If the deposit money is close to the price of the house,
it's better to take out a loan and buy the house.
- You will save more by paying the interest. - He's an expert.
When I first heard about the long-term lease,
I thought it was a lie.
If the landlord invests with my deposit money,
I'll lose it if he fails to make any profits from the investment.
It's uncertain in that respect.
I also had my doubts about the long-term lease system.
It is possible that the landlord can go bankrupt.
Then he won't be able to give the deposit money back.
- I think it's dangerous. - If that's dangerous,
paying deposit money itself has to be risky.
With the long-term lease, you're paying a large amount of deposit money,
but you're not paying monthly rent instead.
There's a problem though.
The term of the contract is way too short, so people have to move often.
The landlords also raise the deposit money.
- I think it'd be appropriate if the contract term is 5 years. - From 2 to 5 years?
Economically, I think it's a good system.
Actually, if you do the math,
with the loan you take out from the bank,
you're paying less amount of monthly rent eventually.
Economically, it makes sense.
There are things to improve in the system though.
For example, the tenants are protected by law,
but sometimes they can't get their deposit money back.
That's right.
I just made a contract for the house I'm moving in.
You can take out an insurance on your lease through your real estate agent.
Up to 100,000 dollars of your deposit money can be insured.
So you can get protected if you make a contract through your real estate agent.
- Alex. - I don't really view this system economically.
Because of this long-term lease system,
many people can't settle in one place.
That makes me really uncomfortable,
so I'm against this system.
Hyun-joo, do you agree with long-term leasing system?
Rather than the idea of agreeing,
I think having a system allows you to choose...
- what is best for you... - It's something like,
I don't have a lot of money, but I can monthly.
You agree with the idea of having a lot of choice.
- I think that's important. - If you don't have enough for a deposit,
it's almost impossible to find a home.
- Right. - Because...
even if I agree to pay a higher monthly rent,
- you still need to have enough for a deposit. - That's right.
If you are a student, a foreigner or...
- a young person, it's a lot of pressure. - It's hard.
What I'm really impressed with is...
they are talking about housing issues in a second language. I'd think...
- that'd be enough to cause a headache. - When Alberto talked about leasing,
I got goosebumps. His Korean is really good.
Last year in September, there was a moment when housing was cheap.
If you time it perfectly, you can see when the interest will be lower.
- You sound like a real estate agent. - Also,
I really want to share this with my international representatives here...
because when they get married later on. There are special loans for foreign couples.
You need to know this.
- That's nice. - You have to keep an eye out for it.
The banks do have specials like that.
For all the foreign viewers watching, please listen carefully.
Please pay attention.
We are talking about life in the city and the environment.
Could you share us the best cities in your countries to live in?
In Canada, the capital Ottawa...
is one of the safest cities in North America.
(It's the best city to live in Canada.)
Also, the price to income ratio...
is very low. What that means is,
if you compare the price of housing to the average income,
there isn't a big difference.
To put it simply, you can buy a house after work and saving for three years.
Canadians don't really worry about not being able to afford a house, right?
There are people who are worried. Recently, places like Vancouver...
- has had housing prices rise by 36.9 percent in one year. - Really?
It's because of...
foreign people coming over and...
- They raised the prices. - They don't even look at the house.
He's looking at Wang Simlin as he says this.
(China is buying a lot of real estate in Canada.)
They buy it without even looking at the house.
- I heard that in one year, around 30,000 people brought property. - Oh, dear.
- I see. - It's hard to find a house for sale.
So for China is the best place to live Canada?
(Is it Canada?)
- Are you going to say it's Ottawa? - No, for us...
- It's Ontario. - Ottawa is a great place.
In China, the best city to live in is Qingdao.
The weather is not too hot or cold.
A lot of people are moving to the city.
In India, the capital city Delhi...
is a very beautiful city...
and there is a lot of green in the city.
If you drive in the summer, the way the trees arches are beautiful.
If a person from Mumbai hears this,
I get scolded and called a crazy person.
People from Mumbai say Delhi is the worst city to live in.
The rivalry between the two cities is very intense.
I've been to both places, but I prefer Mumbai.
- Gosh. - Delhi is too crowded.
- That city is terrible. - There are too many people.
- Where? in Mumbai? - Delhi.
- Gosh. - Isn't the traffic horrible?
- There's always a traffic jam. - It goes car, cow, car, cow.
The traffic is bad because of the cows.
In our country,
the southern part of Delhi has really wide roads.
If you drive down the road in middle of summer it's beautiful.
There's an area called Lutyen's Delhi.
The average cost for a house there is 30 million dollars.
- What did you say? - 30 million dollars.
It's 30 million dollars. The reason why it's so expensive is because...
it's in the middle of Delhi.
There are lots of embassies and diplomats in the area. It's really safe.
Also, only the richest can live in that area.
In Germany, the best city to live in is Hamburg.
(Disagreeing)
There was a vote in Germany...
and the people selected Hamburg as the most beautiful city in Germany.
Also, in Europe,
it is one of the few cities in Europe surrounded by nature.
There are a lot of parks and a river.
- It's a beautiful city. - Isn't the weather horrible?
- The weather. - The weather is...
The weather is good when it's good and bad when it's bad.
It's like any other country.
- That's normal. - It's like any other country.
- It's like any other country. - The southern part of Germany is...
- very nice. - But...
this was a vote by the German people, so people in the southern parts also voted.
Also, the problem is, people who move...
to the city may find it hard to adjust.
People from Hamburg have a lot of pride.
That part might be a little hard to accept.
In the US, this is actually my hometown.
I think New York is the best city.
It's been regarded for a very long time as the city where you can dream.
Many songs have been written about this city.
You know the rap lyrics to "Empire State Of Mind"?
If you listen to the lyrics, it's very touching.
New York is a city where anyone can succeed.
If I can make it there I can make it anywhere. That's the mindset.
I have a question. If I can make it there I can make it anywhere.
If you translate that, doesn't it mean...
it's such a hard place to succeed...
so if you succeed there, you can succeed anywhere?
- That's a keen insight. - You can succeed anywhere.
Your very sharp today.
- If I can succeed in New York, I'm the best. - It's not easy but you can do it.
I would like to ask Mark this.
You've live in both New York and Seoul.
Which city do you prefer?
- That's a hard question. - Be honest.
If I compare my life in New York to my life in Seoul,
I'd say I'm really happy with my life in Seoul.
- Really? - New York doesn't have hanok houses.
- Right. - There are no hanok houses.
- There are no hanok houses. - They don't have any.
- Really. - I'm really curious about how great your house is.
- I'm curious. - I want to see it.
Please invite us over.
(We will reveal Mark's Hanok house in the city, shortly.)
Anywhere in Switzerland is great, right?
I think if you live anywhere in Switzerland, it's great.
If you like an international atmosphere,
Zurich or Geneva are great.
If you like scenery, my hometown of Lugano is the best.
- Lugano. - In Lugano,
if you open the window,
- you'll see a beautiful scenery. - Aren't you...
- a little too arrogant? - You're talking like this.
Are you the Governor of Lugano or something?
(His gestures became more outrageous as he talked about his hometown.)
Aren't you looking down on us too much?
When you open the window, you can see green mountains,
and a beautiful clear lake.
You might think you are in paradise.
Lugano's nickname is...
the Monte Carlo of Switzerland.
- It's really beautiful. - What's the mortgage rate?
That's...
- Well... - He's going to find out.
In Switzerland, the people put great importance on scenery,
so when you build a house,
you have to make sure that it doesn't block the scenery for your neighbor.
- I think that would be important. - Right.
If you are going to build a new house, before building,
they put up polls.
It's to show how big and large the house is going to be.
You are showing this to your neighbors.
So if the neighbors haven't complained for a few months,
then that's when they start building.
In Germany there are many laws to protect...
and preserve the older buildings.
We can't just build a house.
- You need permission. - Let's say in our neighborhood,
there are many older buildings, then we have to build a similar house.
- It's to keep the same feeling. - To give a feeling of unity.
That's right.
- It's probably the same all over Europe. - It's the same in France.
There are two ways to preserve a building.
There are laws stating that you can't touch certain buildings.
Or you can't build anything for 500m around the building.
You need permission.
You have to build it to match the surrounding area.
If it doesn't feel right for the area, you can't build it.
You can't put up billboards.
You need to get permission for everything including the color.
- Including the paint color. - The color as well.
If you look at the new cities in Korea,
- There are no billboards, right? - It feels like it's two different cities.
It's like two different worlds.
- Like this. - You can see the apartment complexes.
When I first came to Gyeongju,
there was still a lot of restrictions.
You couldn't build any tall buildings.
- After going back 2 or 3 years later. - The regulations had disappeared.
It was disappointing.
Hyun-joo, how do you feel about this?
Do you think regulations like this are needed?
Why are you suddenly hosting?
- Unlike Switzerland... - This is Aurelien's newsroom.
What do you think?
I am really curious.
- I want to ask the question to a Korean person. - Son Aurelien.
When you talked about Gyeongju,
a part of me did feel embarrassed.
Because when I thought about my time in England,
even with old cobbled roads,
they don't get rid of it.
Even on the public roads. It's uncomfortable but they keep it.
Also with the buildings,
they keep the outer appearance...
like a book holder.
They don't destroy everything even when they remodel.
They believe that this needs to be preserved.
- Right. - I found that kind of effort to be amazing.
I also felt like Korea needed to put similar effort into things like this, too.
(We need to try harder.)
- Okay. - We have talked about many cities today.
Is there any cities around the world that you'd like to try living in?
- I have a place. - Yes, Guillaume. Where?
I like places where the weather is great throughout the year.
I want to live in Hawaii.
- Hawaii. - Hawaii.
- No one has regretted going there. - Hawaii...
is a city where your clothes won't get dirty.
- I also want to live in Hawaii. - Why?
- Is it because of the seafood? - Well,
40 percent of the population is made up of Japanese people.
So, it's great place to live.
I would like to ask Oogi something.
Why are there so many Japanese people in Hawaii?
If you think about it historically,
- doesn't it seem like an impossible thing? - Well...
Is this how it begins again?
- History is just annoying. - Oogi...
When Japan was doing well economically,
a lot of Japanese people moved. They bought a lot of islands, too.
It started with Guam and now it's Hawaii.
A lot of Japanese people go there on Lunar New Year.
We've seen Hawaii on television since we were young.
For me, it's Reykjavik.
- Iceland. - Reykjavik.
The sun doesn't really set there.
- It doesn't. - I want to experience that.
Is there any other cities you would like to live in?
- I have one. - Where?
Songdo International Business District.
It's a great place.
- It's a great place. - It's a beautiful city.
Do you mean the Songdo in Incheon?
You can take a subway there.
Songdo International Business District does feel different.
Before I came to Korea,
that's what I imagined Korea to be like.
What had you imagined?
I imagined it would be very luxurious and flashy, with a lot of tall buildings.
- Like in the dramas. - Very modern.
- That's what I imagined. - No wonder you like Songdo IBD.
Songdo International Business District is actually pretty well-known in America.
About five years ago, while it was still in construction,
I called my mother and she said,
"Mark, I read in the news..."
"that they're building a city of the future in Korea."
- Songdo IBD? - She read about a city of the future being built in Korea.
That's true.
Even I hadn't heard of it,
- but my mother read it in the newspaper. - In the New York Times.
There was a big article on its construction in the newspaper.
There's a museum on city planning in Songdo International Business District.
- It's really impressive. - Really?
They really put in a lot of work into the city.
You've been to so many places, haven't you?
It feels like I'm talking to civil service workers in Incheon.
Songdo IBD would be so grateful.
Songdo IBD is so popular.
I want to visit Songdo International Business District.
Sometimes, I really want to take Christian to Yangpyeong County.
- Yangpyeong County? - Songdo IBD is nothing compared to Yangpyeong County.
I've spent a lot of time in Korea,
but the place I really want to live in is Yangpyeong County.
Hyun-joo,
if you had the choice to live wherever you wanted, where would you live?
I really like tulips.
I would love to go to the Netherlands and see the tulips there.
There are so many tulips in the spring.
There are so many more tulips in Yongin.
I'd like to take pictures.
In Nagasaki, there's a place called...
Huis Ten Bosch.
- It's made after the Netherlands. - I saw it.
- Right. - They have tulips...
- and windmills there, too. - You could just see them all in Yongin.
It's nice though.
Doesn't it rain all year round in the Netherlands? You don't mind that?
I really like rain.
- She likes dark and subdued places. - That's perfect.
Where would Jun Hyun-moo like to live?
I've never been to Hawaii, so I always wanted to go there.
After today, however, I've changed my mind.
I want to go to Songdo IBD.
Nice.
I have to go now.
(Songdo Brothers)
Great.
In the 113th Non Summit Meeting with Kim Hyun-joo,
talked about whether or not it's normal to want to get out of the city.
I think the answer is building good friendship with...
Mark, who is living a leisurely life in a hanok house in the city.
That would solve your question.
(Go Mark!)
We tried to send this message several times,
but she didn't pick up on it.
- The response was... - You didn't mean you wanted to live in a hanok house, right?
I like hanok houses, too.
I kept thinking what it would be like.
It's a bit dark inside, isn't it?
It rains there, too.
(A hanok house in the city is exactly to her tastes.)
You've become quite a smooth talker.
Does it really rain more there?
I think Alberto is a good coach.
He's become very forward.
I'm always giving him tips in the waiting room.
He's so much smoother.
All will be accomplished by the end of December.
- It's really nice when it rains on the roof. - It is.
All right.
- Mark, that's all for now. - Okay.
What did you think of our Non Summit Meeting?
It seems like...
they are more knowledgeable about Korean real estate than I am.
It was nice to get to learn about different cultures from everyone.
It was very lovely.
We hope your drama is a big hit.
Thank you!
(We wish you the best in your drama and your city escape!)
(A Korean beauty lies beneath a forest of buildings.)
(Bukchon Hanok Village)
(A time machine in the city linking the past to the present)
(A small, antique house lies on top of a hill.)
(The master of the house is...)
(Mark Tetto.)
(In his six years in Korea, he's lived in this hanok house for the past year.)
(A handcrafted garden)
(A New Yorker who loves Korean beauty)
(Today, he has friends coming over to his house.)
(He's busy preparing for his guests.)
(Looking good!)
Have your friends told you who'll be joining them today?
What? Really?
Is it...
Kim Hyun-joo? Will she be coming too?
- Really? - I think you can see for yourself when she gets here.
In that case,
- I'll need to set a nicer table. - Are you worried?
I suddenly have the urge to cook.
(Will Hyun-joo be joining them?)
- Did you have a good sleep last night? - It's too hot.
- It's so hot. - It's so hot I can't sleep at night.
It's too hot, so I brought this!
It's a big one, too.
- You look a little... - Have you ever been...
- to Mark's house? - This is my first time.
I haven't either.
Since it's a housewarming, shouldn't we bring a gift?
When Koreans visit other people's homes,
don't they normally bring detergent or toilet paper?
Where's Mark?
- Mark? - Mark?
Mark comes over to my store a lot.
- Really? - I'm right here.
- Is this your store? - Yes.
- Mark comes here often? - You're Guillaume, right?
No, I'm not.
They do look alike.
- I am Guillaume. - See, I can tell.
Guillaume, let's go!
Guillaume, come on!
You're Guillaume now.
(Meanwhile, Mark gives his all in preparing for his guests.)
(He brews a cool cup of coffee for the lady.)
(Sorry Mark, Hyun-joo isn't coming.)
- We just need to take Christian's lead. - Okay.
If we get lost, it's Christian's fault.
Actually, what I don't understand is...
It's too inconvenient to live here.
- Why? - It's so far from the station.
It's a nice neighborhood.
Are we there yet?
We have to turn left at the next block.
See, I told you it's going to be far.
- Hold on. - Is it here?
- I think this is the right one. - Is it?
Should we go up this way?
Mark, why do you have to live here?
(They wander through alleys.)
(They climb hill after hill.)
Where are you Mark?
Do people really live here?
- It's on the left. - It's right over there.
(The search for Mark's house)
I'm so tired I can't see anything.
I think he lives on the top of the neighborhood.
(Will they be able to find Mark's house?)
Mark...
(Grumbling)
(Where is his house?)
It says we're here.
(They finally arrive.)
- What do I do? - Do this.
(Christian doesn't know how to knock on the gate.)
(Knock! Knock! Knock!)
This isn't the bell, is it?
- Press it. - Press it.
(Ring ring)
What kind of traditional hanok house has an intercom?
He would have air conditioning, right?
- No, he doesn't. - Open it.
I'm sure he has air conditioning.
(She's finally here.)
- You're finally here. - Mark!
- Mark! - Wow.
Wow, look at this place!
- Wow, it's so pretty! - Isn't it?
- Hold on, - What a nice place.
- Mark! - It was a long walk, wasn't it?
- Mark! - You've come a long way in the heat. You even brought a watermelon.
- It must have been heavy. - It's heavier than me.
Welcome. Come on in. It's cool inside.
Since you live in a hanok house, I thought you'd greet us in a hanbok.
Really? You should have worn a hanbok.
(Mark's wait ends in disappointment.)
- How have you been? - Good.
- Wow, what a nice house! It's so pretty! - It's hot out so hurry on in.
(Welcome to Mark's home.)
- Wow, what a nice house! It's so pretty! - It's hot out, so hurry on in.
(Welcome to Mark's home.)
- Do you have air conditioning? - Thank's for having us.
(The simple living area resonates the scent of pine.)
(The wide, wooden floor opens up to a small garden.)
(The roof frames the sky.)
(Here is the home of a New Yorker in love with Korea.)
(Welcome to my home.)
- We brought you some gifts. - We have some gifts for you, Mark.
It's a lot cooler than I thought.
This is a year's worth of tissue. It's the soft kind, right?
- It's super soft. - We can use it while we're here.
It's very good.
- Mark! - It was the most expensive one.
- We asked the owner he said it's the best. - We brought this too.
This is really a must for a hanok house.
The house is cool because I can open up the doors,
but we get a lot of bugs coming into the house.
- I'm sure there'd be a lot of bugs. - That's good too,
- since it's like living out in nature. - Living with the wild.
It's a part of nature.
- That's funny. - There's so much dust here.
- That's a part of nature too! - Are you farming something?
- It's a part of nature. - You have a lot less furniture than I thought.
Don't you make a lot of money?
Actually, that's a part of the charm of hanok.
It emphasizes the space. It's minimalistic.
- It's all a part of its charm. - You don't need a lot of furniture.
Whatever you say.
Ta-da!
- Is that chili pepper? - Is it edible?
- This here is... - Really?
You know how Korean houses traditionally hang dried pollack from the ceiling?
As a charm?
In India, there's a god that brings bad energy.
He likes spicy and salty foods,
so this traps him and keeps his bad energy away from the home.
If you hang seven peppers and a lemon together like this,
- Does it have to be exactly seven? - Yes.
Because there are seven days in a week.
Is that something you import from India, Lucky?
(How did you know?)
You're doing business, right?
This is product placement!
It's not exactly Korean but it blends in well with the house.
- Right? - That's because it's a part of nature.
There are Chinese characters here.
Can you read it?
I should explain this too.
(The pillar of the hanok)
(The spine of the house is made from the Song of Geumgang.)
It means this crossbeam is the pillar of the house.
The date the pillar was raised into the house is inscribed on the pillar.
- That's right. - It even states the time.
There's the symbol of the dragon, too.
That indicates the direction the house is facing.
It shows which way is east and west.
I'll show you this part of the house, too.
This is normally the master bedroom,
where you'd normally sleep.
- When I moved in, I wanted to make this into an office. - Can I go in?
- Wow. - You can go inside.
- This is... - Do you know what this is?
- This is so pretty. - It was a good purchase.
The person who made this is considered a human cultural asset.
This artist was recognized as a cultural asset by the country.
- He made this in a traditional style. - It's expensive, right?
- How much is it? - Don't ask, you'll hurt his feelings.
- Really? - Did you buy it Mark?
Yes I bought it. I bought everything in this room.
I need to check this online.
- But... - Did you buy this as well?
This is from the end circular part of the rood tile.
It's called a sumaksae.
- It's found on the end of the roof tiles. - Sumaksae.
This is actually very old.
- That's amazing. - each sumaksae...
- has different designs. - They all have a meaning, right?
If you need to use the bathroom. It's over here.
The bathroom isn't outside?
- Isn't it outside? - No, outside is...
- It's really nice. - Luckily...
Luckily, it's not outside.
The bathroom is very modern.
Mark, your bathroom is bigger than my dormitory room.
- Is that so? - Yes.
It's bigger than my dormitory room.
This is amazing.
- Downstairs is where I sleep. - Do we go down?
- We can't get shocked by this. - Hold on.
- I need to think. - Hold on, isn't this an apartment?
This is more like my personal space.
It's actually cooler down here.
This is my bedroom.
This is where I sleep.
- Whose bedroom is that? - That's the guest bedroom.
This is my bedroom. That one is the guest's room.
Guest, please come out.
(A bed and a place to think for the guest)
- Is the guest inside the bed? - That's a big TV.
It's Samsung. This is expensive.
Well, anyway...
- TVs are big in Korea. - When you got married,
- didn't you get a ham? - I'm jealous.
- I got one. - This is a traditional wedding box. A ham.
- It looks old. - It's from the Joseon dynasty.
- When you get married, and at night... - This is so nice.
I really like the interior design style.
It feels like the meeting of...
traditional and modern colors. I really like it.
- This is really old. - Mark...
has a good feel for interior design.
Also, when you get married you have things like this.
- Yes, the goose. - Alberto, do you have one?
- I have one. - Exactly, they are a couple and when you get married,
- they give you this. - Really?
It's cute, right? This is my hope for my marriage.
- It's so pretty. - You do why they give it to the couple, right?
- You know why they give it, right? - Isn't it for luck?
As I understand it, Goose couples...
mate for life. So if,
If one of the couple dies...
- then the remaining goose will remain alone until it dies. - They mate for life.
- It's a trend. - This is my hope for my marriage.
- Is that so? - Mark, if I were to give you a tip,
if a man is too perfect,
- the woman will feel uncomfortable. - True.
So, I'd slightly turn the book...
like this.
No, really. It's true.
Put the remote control over there, like this.
- There you go. - It's okay.
- They'll be uncomfortable. - Right.
If the bed is too perfect...
- So turn it a little... - Exactly, put the TV on an angle.
If you are too perfect, she could get stressed.
- She could get angry. - So, make her pity me?
- No, no. Be a man. - Don't make her pity you.
Be manly.
- Do you mean like put my socks here like this? - No,
- you don't need socks. - Put it like this.
- If... - What are you doing?
This is the problem. Seriously.
Mark, this is the problem.
- That's it. - Good.
Your socks.
- I can't do that. - The book...
Move the book.
Just do it roughly.
- That's it. - Okay.
- The house looks so much better. - It was a test.
- I'm still not sure. - It feels like a person is living here.
This is the dining room.
I can't cook that well.
But I did prepare some snacks.
It does feel a bit awkward because it's all guys.
- Did you make all this? - No, I didn't make it.
- This really is... - I'll show you this.
hanoks are very close to the ground, right?
- Because they are normally only one floor. - Right.
But this hanok is built on a hill.
This is what makes this hanok special.
- So, ever since back then... - The view is...
(Banging)
(Opening it with his fist)
Is that okay? Are you allowed to do that?
- Doesn't it open? - We got it.
I guess this is how you do it in a hanok.
(Banging)
It's a success.
- You have to be a little physical with hanok. - That's the charm.
- That's the charm. - Look outside.
- Look at that. - The houses...
What if you fall?
You can see the whole neighborhood from here.
Don't you have roof tiles like this in Mexico and Spain?
- Red roof tiles. - We do. We do use them a lot.
- The shape is different. - In Korea, they are called kiwa.
If I explain a little more, this is made from wood.
- From wood? - There's no nails here, right?
- There are no nails. - I can't believe that.
- Nails weren't used to build this house. - True.
That's really an impressive thing.
If you look here...
It's built like this.
- It was constructed like this. - They fit it in.
They fit the pieces together.
They fit the pieces together like Lego.
What's interesting about hanok houses is that it can be moved.
- You can move it? - Later on,
if we wanted to move this house to another place,
- we could live the house... - Can you move it?
You can move it like a Lego structure.
- Just like this? - Like a Lego.
In the past, when we built castles in India, we'd do the same thing.
- Really? - Back then, they didn't have cement.
- They didn't have cement, so they fit pieces together. - Fascinating.
If you go near the Alps,
the houses have built like that. It's just that the shapes are different.
- Also, houses like this are sturdier. - But Lucky,
- it feels like we are filming a drama. - This is so nice.
Among the many rooms in the hanok, this is my favourite.
- It has a great view. - It's also very cool even though there's no air conditioner.
It's because,
it feels like each window is a painting.
- From this window you can see the tower. - I see what you mean.
Through that window, you can see pine trees.
It looks like a picture.
You can see the garden over there, too.
- It's my favorite place. - But Mark,
- you used to live in an apartment in New York. - Yes.
I know there are a lot of differences.
But what's the biggest difference between the apartment and hanok?
I came to Korea after living in the apartment for a long time.
What I really like about this place is you get to see the yard.
I know it sounds funny, but...
if you have a yard in your house,
- you can feel the nature. - That's right.
You can also feel the scent of the trees.
I love the scent of it.
I feel like this place heals me,
and when it rains, it feels even better.
(The sound of rain fills the quiet hanok.)
I live by the river. I can see the view of Han river from my place.
But it's really noisy.
The sound of cars is somewhat annoying, but it's really quiet here.
I feel I'm part of the neighborhood here.
When I go down the hill...
on my way to work,
I stop by the coffee shop.
- They'd tell me, "Have a good day, Mark." - Is he the guy we met?
You saw him, right?
Everyone in this neighborhood knows one another by their names.
- I love it. - It's nice.
That doesn't happen in Gangnam.
Mark, I heard the house has its own name.
- Hanok houses usually have names. - I see.
- The name usually ends with "jae" or "Hun". - That's right.
- I've heard about it. - That's how they name the house here.
The name of this house is "Pyunghaengjae".
It means "parallel", right?
- In English, it's Parallel. - Right.
It means...
- to share our lives together in one place. - It sounds great.
When I looked at other houses,
the house owner's name was written on the door.
- I didn't see your name though. - I didn't see it, either.
- It's not written on the door. - Write your Korean name.
- Do you have Korean name? - Yes, he does.
- My Korean name is Hyun-jun. - Hyun-jun?
What's your surname then?
My English surname is Tetto, so it's "Tae" in Korean.
- Tae Hyun-jun? - Yes.
- Do you guys have Korean name? - Do you like it?
- It's... - Do you have one?
- I don't have one. - Mark and I were having dinner at a restaurant.
He made a reservation, so I told them...
I made a reservation under the name of Mark Tetto.
- No. - They told me the name wasn't on their list.
Mark came later and said it was under the name of Tae Hyun-joon.
I use that name when I make a reservation.
This place is really similar to a traditional Chinese house.
But the difference is that...
Chinese people like fancy decorations.
- You would see red color everywhere. - That's right.
Actually, I recently visited China.
- Many people say hanok is originally from China. - Yes.
- It's totally different. - The style is different.
Like you said, Chinese house is really fancy,
but hanok is really simple. That's what I like about hanok.
What interests me is kiwa, the tiles on the roof.
- It's kiwa. - Its shape is curved and round.
People say there are many reasons for that. The shape is round...
so that the water can drop easily.
That's why it's round.
- It's also very heavy. - Right.
I didn't know about it,
but it fascinated me because...
there are reasons why they made it so heavy.
Like I said, no nails were used when they built this house.
So to make the house more stable,
- they made the kiwa really heavy on purpose... - I see.
to add the weight on the house.
That way, it becomes more stable.
- Also... - Do you have to maintain the wood condition?
Not really.
Naturally, its color may change.
There could be small cracks on the wood, too.
But it's only natural,
and that's also what I like about hanok.
Hanok has so many charms.
The biggest charm of hanok is...
the light and the shadow.
The light comes in naturally,
and it creates beautiful shadows.
- It's somewhat romantic. - Can't someone else see you from the outside...
when you get changed?
- It's wide open. - That's also what's good about hanok.
- Oh, really? - Of course.
(A time-lapse filmed by Mark)
(The shadow movement of the eaves)
(A piece of art created by the light and the shadow)
Let's say Mark got married.
What if your wife doesn't like living in hanok?
- What are you going to do? - I'll have to contemplate about the matter.
About your wife or the house?
About my wife.
(About my wife!)
(You can feel the warmth of the people in the alleys...)
(and the nature it embraces.)
(Mark's hanok is simple yet it has many different charms.)
(Just like the flowers he grew in the garden,)
(we hope his love blossoms in the future.)
I'm a criminal psychologist.
I've been working in this field...
for the last 17 years.
I visit prisons as often as I go to my house.
(Shaking)
He sprayed gas and set fire.
He chopped it into 100 little pieces.
It's reported that 7,500 women were killed.
They think they're better than others. That's what it is.
I have a question. A psychopath feels relaxed...
after the act of crime.
They enjoy torturing others.
They can't look into your eyes if they're nervous.
- Mark is looking away. - So what?
You're finally telling the truth.
(Is Mark a psychopath?)
This happened in February of 2002.
He poured sulfuric acid.
They collected the blood from the mosquitoes around.
- After they told him to come... - Then they caught him.
Yes, that's how they got him.
It's amazing.
The criminals might be watching the show right now.
Freeze. Hands up.
(Non Summit Meeting)
("Secret Time" by Spica)
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